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Saturday, November 14, 2009

[shia_strength] Re: We all are MUSLIM and we all follow ISLAM.

 


Salamalykum,

Yeh we should not behave like Biological Muslim. It is our duty to do
proper research on all the sects and follow what the Holy Prophet(s.a.w)
said:

The Question comes in my :

1) who made shia ,sunni,maliki, hambali,shafai?

Ans: It is very clear we made these sects by following different imam or
leaders. why we started to follow these leaders instead of Holy
Prophet(s.a.w)?

Is there any hadith of Holy Prophet(s.a.w) to follow these leaders
exist.

Yeh there are thousand of hadith we can read every day in both shia and
sunni hadoth to Follow Ahlulbayt, to follow Hazrat Ali(a.s) afte him.

I really surprise Muslims debate and dispute of Hadith e Rasool e Khuda
(s.a.w) and Verses of Holy Quran, when they see ot is for importance of
ahlulbayt and instructing us to follow them.

BUT we never debate when do not find any hadith regarding following
these maliki, shafai, hambali....and Follow it without recommendation of
Holy Prophet(s.a.w) and proudly declare we follow sunnat e rasool e
Khuda(s.a.w).

we Muslims are one umma and we must follow Instructions of Holy
Propeht(s.a.w) only. whatever the world want to call them shia or sunni,
they can.

We all the Muslims divided in these groups by following these leaders:

Al­Ash`ari was born in 270 A.H. and died in 320 A.H.

Ibn Hanbal was born in 164 A.H. and died in 241

A.H. Al­Shafi`i was born in 150 A.H. and died in 204 A.H.

Malik was born in 95 A.H.[1] and died in 179 A.H.

Abu Hanifah was born in 80 A.H. and died in 150 A.H.

Shi`as follow the sect of the Imams from the Prophet's Household,

Most nearest person was hazrat Ali(a.s) who also sacrificed to save
Islam, to defend Islam. why not to follow him by following Holy
Prophet(s.a.w)

ws
--- In shia_strength@yahoogroups.com, ahmad ahmad <JAMIAHMAD@...> wrote:
>
> Salam Alaikum,
>
> The prophet SAW was neither Shia nor Sunni. The prophet SAW did not
order his Ummah to devide themselves into sects. In fact sectarianism is
against the clear instructions of Quran. (watasimu be hablillahi
jamiun wa la tafarraqu).
>
> Also, its not at all necessary that if the father belongs to a
particular ideology the son should also follow the same. In fact Quran
is againt this idea. Quran says ""(O Mohammed, when you tell them follow
One God, they say we follow what we found our forefathers doing)...What!
even if their forefathers had no knowledge"").
>
> From this ayah its clear that we should not follow what our father's
have been doing if its against Quran and Sunnah.....the sunnah of
one's father is not more important the  sunnah of the prophet.
>
> wassalam
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Hasnain Naqvi hrnaqvi12@...
> To: shia_strength@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, August 31, 2009 2:40:53 PM
> Subject: RE: [shia_strength] We all are MUSLIM and we all follow
ISLAM.
>
> Â
> Wa alaikum us salam,
>
> Dear brother,
>
> If my father is Shia then I will be born Shia, and so with every human
being. If a person is muslim then his children will be born as a muslim
and vice versa.
>
> Prophet Mohammad(saww) is from lineage of Ibrahim(as). As Ibrahim(as)
was Shia( as written in Surah Safaat), so Ibrahim(as)' s sons were all
shias, Ismail(as) was Shia, Ishaq(as) was Shia, Yaqub(as) was Shia,
Yusuf(as) was Shia, Musa(as) was Shia, Haroon(as) was Shia, because all
were from the lineage of Ibrahim(aS). As Ibrahim(aS) was Shia so His
descendants will be Shia. The lineage continues till Prophet
Mohammad(saww) . Prophet(saww) grandfathers like Kasa, Abd Munaf, Hashim
etc were Shias so Yes Prophet Mohammad(saww) is Shia.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Hasnain Naqvi
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: shia_strength@ yahoogroups. com; shiairanians@ yahoogroups. com;
muslim_youth_ connection@ yahoogroups. com; progressive-
muslim@yahoogrou ps.com
> From: alam_afroz7@ yahoo.co. in
> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:55:48 +0530
> Subject: RE: [shia_strength] We all are MUSLIM and we all follow
ISLAM.
>
> Â
>
>
> As-Salamu Alaykumbrother
> Â
> Â I appreciate your reply, but can you tell me Prophet Mohammad
PBUH followed which madhab Sia or Sunni.
> Â
> Is it good to devide the islam into madhabs and fight upon it when
prophet Mohammad himself never did so.
>
> --- On Thu, 13/8/09, Hasnain Naqvi hrnaqvi12@hotmail. com> wrote:
>
>
> >From: Hasnain Naqvi hrnaqvi12@hotmail. com>
> >Subject: RE: [shia_strength] We all are MUSLIM and we all follow
ISLAM.
> >To: shia_strength@ yahoogroups. com, shiairanians@ yahoogroups. com,
muslim_youth_ connection@ yahoogroups. com, progressive-
muslim@yahoogrou ps.com
> >Date: Thursday, 13 August, 2009, 7:21 PM
> >
> >
> >Â
> >Ws Salam,
> >
> >I think you are misunderstood.
> >
> >There are two different things 1)Deen 2) Mazhab.
> >
> >Deen is the Path and the way you travel on the path is Mazhab.
> >
> >Our Deen is Islam, whether Sunni or Shia, both are muslims as both
believe in Islam. But the way to travel on it i.e the path is the Mazhab
you are following.
> >
> >One thing more, Deen is of Nabi, and Mazhab is of Imam.
> >
> >Before Ibrahim(as) Deen was present, but when Ibrahim(as) was given
Imammat the Mazhab e Imammiyah started known as Shiayt as Quran says in
Surah Safa'at Ayat 83. and in Surah Qasas Ayat 15 the follower of
Musa(as) was titled as SHIA, He called Musa(as) for help and Musa(as)
went to help him.
> >
> >If calling Shia is wrong, then Allah has called Ibrahim(as) and
follower of Musa(as) as Shia in Quran. What you say now.
> >
> >Shia is not a Deen, rather it is a Mazhab, started from Ibrahim(as),
and we are following Mazhab of our Holy 12 Imams(as).
> >
> >Regards,
> >Hasnain Naqvi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> To: shiairanians@ yahoogroups. com; shia_strength@ yahoogroups. com;
muslim_youth_ connection@ yahoogroups. com; progressive-
muslim@yahoogrou ps.com
> >From: alam_afroz7@ yahoo.co. in
> >Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:13:11 +0530
> >Subject: [shia_strength] We all are MUSLIM and we all follow ISLAM.
> >
> >Â
> >As-Salamu Alaykum
> >
> >
> >Â
> >Allah in Quran has called his followers as MUSLIMS not as Shias or
Sunni or by any other name, so why should classify ourselves
under some sects.
> >"We all are MUSLIM and we all follow ISLAM."
> >Come on Bothers and sisters , unite us as a true muslims and follow
the actual beauty of ISLAM.
> >Â
> >3: 52. When Jesus found Unbelief on their part He said: "Who will be
My helpers to (the work of) Allah." Said the disciples: "We are Allah.s
helpers: We believe in Allah, and do thou bear witness that we are
Muslims.
> >Â
> >3: 64.Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us
and you: That we worship none but Allah. that we associate no partners
with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons
other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we
(at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah.s Will).
> >Â
> >3: 80. He would never ask you to take angels and prophets as your
lords. Would he ask you to become kafir (unbeliever) after you have
become Muslim ?
> >Â
> >4: 125. Who has a better Deen (way of life or religion) than the one
who is aMuslim (submits himself entirely) to Allah, does good to others
and follows the faith of Abraham the upright one, whom Allah chose to be
His friend?
> >Â
> >5: 111. Remember, when I inspired the disciples to have faith in Me
and My Messenger and they said: ‘We believe and bear witness that
we have become Muslims."
> >Â
> >7. 126. Look at your verdict, you want to take revenge simply because
we believed in the signs of our Lord when they came before us! O Lord!
Give us patience and cause us die as Muslims."
> >Â
> >10: 72. If you have turned away from my message, I did not lose any
thing, for I did not ask any reward from you for my services: my reward
is only with Allah, I have been commanded to become a Muslim."
> >Â
> >10: 84. Moses said: "O my people! If you sincerely believe in Allah,
then put your
> >trust in Him, if you are really Muslims."
> >Â
> >12: 101. O Lord! You have indeed given me a kingdom and taught me the
interpretation of dreams. O, the Creator of the heavens and the earth,
You are my Protector in this
> >world and in the hereafter, make me die as a Muslim and admit me
among the
> >righteous."
> >Â
> >15:2 The Day will come when the unbelievers will wish that they were
Muslims.
> >Â
> >16: 89O Muhammad, warn them about that Day when We shall call a
witness from every nation to testify against it, and We shall call you O
Muhammad to testify against your people: that is why We have sent down
to you this Book (The Qur'an) to explain everything - a guide, a
blessing and good news for Muslims.
> >Â
> >16: 102 Say, "The Holy Spirit (Gabriel) has brought it down piecemeal
intact from your Lord to strengthen the faith of the believers, and to
give guidance and good news to the Muslims."
> >Â
> >21: 107, 108.O Muhammad, We have not sent you but as a blessing for
all the worlds.Tell them: "It has been revealed to me that your God is
One God -will you then become Muslims?"
> >Â
> >22: 78. Strive in the Way of Allah as you ought to strive with
sincerity and discipline; He has chosen you and has not laid upon you
any hardship in the observance of your faith - the faith of your father
Abraham. He named you Muslims before in prior scriptures and in this
(The Qur’an), so that His Messenger may testify against you and
you yourselves may testify against rest of the mankind. Therefore,
establish Salah, pay Zakah and hold fast to Allah, Who is your Protector
- so what an excellent Protector and what a splendid Supporter!
> >Â
> >27: 80, 81. The fact is that you cannot make the dead hear you, nor
can you make the deaf hear the call especially when they turn their
backs and pay no heed,nor can you guide the blind people to prevent them
from straying; none will listen to you except those who believe in Our
revelations and become Muslims.
> >Â
> >27: 91, 92.O Muhammad, say to them: "I have been commanded to worship
the Lord of this city (Mecca), the One Who has made it sacred and Who is
the Owner of all things; and I am commanded to be of those who are
Muslims,and that I should recite The Qur’an. Now, whoever follows
this guidance will be guided for his own good, and to him who goes
astray, say: "I am merely a Warner."
> >Â
> >29: 46. Do not argue with the People of the Book except in good taste
- except with those who are wicked among them - and say: "We believe in
that which is sent down to us and that which is sent down to you; Our
God and your God is the same One God to Whom we submit as Muslims."
> >Â
> >43: 68, 69. "O My devotees! Today you have nothing to fear or to
regret,"it will be said to those who believed in Our revelations and
became Muslims,
> >Â
> >46:15 We have enjoined upon man to treat his parents with kindness.
With much trouble his mother bore him, and with much pain did she give
him birth. His bearing and his
> >weaning took thirty months. When he reaches the age of full strength
and becomes forty years old, he says: "My Lord! Grant me the grace that
I may thank you for the favors which You have bestowed on me and on my
parents, and that I may do good deeds that will please You, and grant me
good children. Surely I turn to You in repentance and surely I am of
those who are Muslims."
> >Â
> >Â
> >72: 14, 15. Surely there are some among us who are Muslims and some
who are deviators from the truth. Those who have adopted Islam have
found the way to salvation,and those who have deviated from the truth
will become the fuel for hell."
> >Â
> >2: 208. O believers enter into Islam completely and do not follow the
footsteps of Satan,
> >surely he is your clear-cut enemy.
> >Â
> >3: 19. Surely the only Deen (true religion and the Right Wayof life)
in the sight of Allah is Al-Islam. Those to whom the Book was given did
not adopt ways different than this except out of envy among themselves,
and after true knowledge had come to them. They should know that Allah
is swift in calling to account those who deny His revelations.
> >Â
> >3: 84, 85. O Prophet, say: "Webelieve in Allah and what is revealed
to us and what was revealed to Abraham Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and their
descendants; and in that which was given to Moses, Jesus and other
Prophets from their Lord; we do not discriminate between any one of
them, and to Allah do we submit in Islam (Muslim)."Â If anyone is
looking for a religion other than Islam, then let it be known that it
will not be accepted from him; and in the Hereafter he will be among the
losers.
> >Â
> >5: 3. ………Today I have perfected your religion for you,
completed my favor upon you and approved Al-Islam as a Deen (way of life
for you). Anyone who is compelled by hunger to eat what is forbidden,
not intending to commit sin, will find Allah Forgiving, Merciful.
> >Â
> >6: 14 Say: "Should I take as my protector anyone other than Allah,
who is the Creator of the heavens and the earth. Who feeds all and is
fed by none?" Say: "Nay! I am commanded to be the first of those who
submit to Allah in Islam and not of those who commit shirk."
> >Â
> >6: 125 Whomever Allah wills to guide, He opens his chest to Islam and
whomever He
> >intends to confound, He makes his chest narrow and squeezes so tight
that, at the
> >very idea of Islam, he feels as if his soul is going to climb up
towards the sky. That is
> >how Allah places a blight on those who do not believe,
> >Â
> >39: 11, 12. Say: "I am commanded to worship Allah and serve none but
Himand I am commanded to be the first of those who submit to Allah in
Islam."
> >Â
> >39: 22. Is the one whose heart Allah has opened to Islam and is
walking in the light from his Lord like the one who has learned no
lesson and is still a non-Muslim. So woe to
> >those whose hearts are hardened against the remembrance of Allah!
They are clearly in error.
> >Â
> >Â 72: 14, 15. Surely there are some among us who are Muslims and
some who are deviators from the truth. Those who have adopted Islam have
found the way to salvation,and those who have deviated from the truth
will become the fuel for hell."
> >Â
> >http://www.openburh an.com/
> >Â
> >Â
> >ALLAH in Quran also condems Sects strictly.....
> >[3:103] You shall hold fast to the rope of GOD, all of you, and do
not be divided.
> >[6:159] Those who divide themselves into sects do not belong with
you. Their judgment rests with GOD, then He will inform them of
everything they had done.
> >Â
> >Any one who divides Islam is against the religion. So when ever you
find a muslim calling himself as sia or sunni or what ever, please stop
him, We all are muslims, we have to follow what ever is written in
Quran.
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