Shia Strength: [shia_strength] Re: Fact behind Tashahhud in namaz

Monday, May 24, 2010

[shia_strength] Re: Fact behind Tashahhud in namaz

Dear Abid,

I myself do not propose zanjeer zanni with blades, i think it should be ban on religious grounds because i did not find any source of zanjeer with blades in aima's(a.s) time nor did they mention it in their sayings. i do oppose zanjeer with blades because of people dont like it or people show it in some negative connotations. what ever we do is related to us and aima e massommeen and we do not care what other people say.

secondly zanjeer without blades is allowed and it customizes our way of mourning and protest and support to imam hussain(A.S)

i believe those who laugh at us are jahil.

Thanks

Irshad Toori

From: Abid Bangash <abid.bangash@yahoo.com>
To: shia_strength@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 12:01:26 PM
Subject: Re: [shia_strength] Re: Fact behind Tashahhud in namaz

Asalamu Alaikum,

Again my apologize to all momaineen.Already explained that my intention is not to Nauzobillah critisize my beloved religion.

First of all,Azadari is Sunnah and zanjeer zani i think even not a sunnah then why we are emphisizing it too much.We should think about its disadvantages to religion and its followers.

We should not be emotional but should be rational.One of religious scholar(Aaleme Deen) showed us a news paper article of Israel,in which they present our zanjeerzani in a very bad way.They expressed that we are beast.We all know that we did this in order to show our love(ishq) with Hazrat IMAM HUSSAIN (A.S).But we should also think rationally.

Talebe Dua

Bangash

From: masoom110 <masoom110@yahoo. com>
To: shia_strength@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 9:48:43 AM
Subject: [shia_strength] Re: Fact behind Tashahhud in namaz

Salamunalikum,

Dear Ali, I am combing this group and also changing it to discussion group only. yeh members are allowed to post moral stories, events and event related posts and Muslim world news.

Basic rule for discussion is discuss it in best possible ways and other rule of discussion is speak with the support of Holy quran and hadith e Masumeen(a.s) or with the rulings of scholars.

Just saying he raised a good question or that is right or wrong is not sufficient.

Fatwa of ayatullah sistani is very clear , if there is no fear of permanent loss of limbs or death , it is allowed.

Before giving expert comments on islamic matters it is better to study the matter carefully.

I already provided sufficient hadith and rulings of Mujtahids for answering Bangesh and he must accept rulings of mujtahids and Hadith e Masumeeen(a. s).

It is also your dusty to visit the that website and think about your supportive statement.

http://www.islamic- laws.com/ azadari.htm

I hope you will support Scholars, mujtahids instead of those who are in trap of wahabiyat and speak against azadar, importance of Ahlulbayt, Karbala and azadari practices.

--- In shia_strength@ yahoogroups. com, Muhammad Ali <smali_system@ ...> wrote:
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> Dear Brother,
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> My one of momin brother Bangash have pointed issues which are really important and need to be given importance. Unless we accept the truth we can not improve ourselves. One of our brother is saying that he has seen the vidoe of Aqaey Sistani in which he has allowed the zanjeer zani. He is mixing the zanjeer zani which happens in iraq with the bloody zanjeer zani which done in south asia. Please dont mix the facts.
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> Thanks and Regards,
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> Ali.
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> From: M Hasan Hashmi hashmimhasan@ ...
> To: shia_strength@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 6:38:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [shia_strength] Fact behind Tashahhud in namaz
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> ASALAM-O-ALIKUM
> >DEAR BROTHER
> > YOU ASKED THAT AGAH SISTANI SAID ZANJEER ZANI IS HARAM DUE TO SOME REASONS
> >BUT I SAW ON NET &HE SAID ZANJEER ZANI IS
> > ALLOWED
> >PLZ BROTHER FIRST CONFORM &THEN FORWARD
> >ILTAMAS-E- DUA
> >MUHAMMAD HASSAN HASHMI
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