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Monday, May 24, 2010

Re: [shia_strength] Re: Fact behind Tashahhud in namaz

 

Dear Members
Special thanks to all the members who try to sort out the debates and focus on important issues
After going through all the mails regarding subject, it is clear that some wasted elements are trying to keep involve young generation in this kind of debate, they want to confuse and keep busy young Shia from this debate and keep them far from Azadari and remembrance of Great Sacrifice of Imam Hussain (Aleihis Salam)
As mentioned it our duty to follow our Marja's (Taqleed-e-Marja)
One more question arised :
One of the maulvi told during Hadees that Blood is Najis (which is for sure Najis-ul-ain), so be careful when doing Khamazani the band (cloth with name of Masoomeen) should not be on head as it is (the name are Pious, Isma-e-Mutahir), and the blood running from this name band is behurmati of  masoomeen names (bands like written YA HUSSAIN, YA ABBAS, YA ZEHRA AND ETC) 
But some wasted elements made it an issue and said the Maulvi is stopping us from Zanjir Zania and Khamazani (they just change the main topic, which was respecting the value of names)
They claim that our blood which is coming out after Matam is PAK, there is no problem in tieing the band with name
I would like to know comments from our learned members
 
Ws
SMB

 


From: masoom110 <masoom110@yahoo.com>
To: shia_strength@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 11:40:05 AM
Subject: [shia_strength] Re: Fact behind Tashahhud in namaz

 

Salaamun Alaikum,
Thanks Bangesh for understanding and hope you have read all my provided
links. In this matter of Zajeer zani it is our duty to follow our marja
e taqleed.If the allow do it, if they prohibit stop it.No mujtahid
issued fatwa to stop it unconditionally.
Sunnah is loving Imam husain(a.s) and by zajeer zani we express our
love. Yeh in some countries it can give bad impressions and if it is
true, we should take care but at the same time we also know our all the
practices including Hijab , beard gives bad impression of jews,
christians or people or western countries because on anti islamic
propoganda.

More articles, activities you will find against Hijab than Zanjeer zani
and zanjeer zani is not a main issue , in fact main issue is enemy want
to stop us remembering sacrifice of ahlulbayt and whatever shia do for
remembering them is wrong in their eyes. Otherwsie no space left for
argue, when taqleed is wajib and suggestion is to follow rulings of your
own marja e taqleed.

Who will think about to follow ignorants and their expert comments. Some
suggest it is better to donate blood than zanjeer matam. think How many
of them who do not perform zanjeer matam ,donate blood?

Comparison one good act with other is also nothing but a fitna. and You
will find all such objection, suggestions in haq chaar yaar websites.

You can see i started Issue of the week, sila e rahmi and recieved only
two replies. and After so many request to follow you marja e taqleed,
still many members are giving expert comments and suggestions.

It is clear that their intention is not guiding muslims but thei
intention is wnly one attack the lovers of ahluylbayt.

One member instead of presenting daleel from Hadith and Quran or
Mujtahid rulings started to target me directly by saying i use word
Salaamun Alaikum and that is wrong and right word is Assalamu-Alaikum.
He is so blind in enimity of ahlulbayt that he now do not fear Allah
subhan o tala and stop thinking that Allah knows all.

Read this once more:http://www.islamic-laws.com/azadari.htm

Beware of such type of people.

ws

--- In shia_strength@yahoogroups.com, Abid Bangash <abid.bangash@...> wrote:
>
> Asalamu Alaikum,
>
>                Again my apologize to all momaineen.Already explained that my intention is not to Nauzobillah critisize my beloved religion.
> First of all,Azadari is Sunnah and zanjeer zani i think even not a sunnah then why we are emphisizing it too much.We should think about its disadvantages to religion and its followers.
> We should not be emotional but should be rational.One of religious scholar(Aaleme Deen) showed us a news paper article of Israel,in which they present our zanjeerzani in a very bad way.They expressed that we are beast.We all know that we did this in order to show our love(ishq) with Hazrat IMAM HUSSAIN (A.S).But we should also think rationally.
>
>
>
> Talebe Dua
>
> Bangash
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: masoom110 <masoom110@...>
> To: shia_strength@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 9:48:43 AM
> Subject: [shia_strength] Re: Fact behind Tashahhud in namaz
>
>  
> Salamunalikum,
> Dear Ali, I am combing this group and also changing it to discussion group only. yeh members are allowed to post moral stories, events and event related posts and Muslim world news.
> Basic rule for discussion is discuss it in best possible ways and other rule of discussion is speak with the support of Holy quran and hadith e Masumeen(a.s) or with the rulings of scholars.
> Just saying he raised a good question or that is right or wrong is not sufficient.
> Fatwa of ayatullah sistani is very clear , if there is no fear of permanent loss of limbs or death , it is allowed.
> Before giving expert comments on islamic matters it is better to study the matter carefully.
> I already provided sufficient hadith and rulings of Mujtahids for answering Bangesh and he must accept rulings of mujtahids and Hadith e Masumeeen(a. s).
> It is also your dusty to visit the that website and think about your supportive statement.
> http://www.islamic- laws.com/ azadari.htm
> I hope you will support Scholars, mujtahids instead of those who are in trap of wahabiyat and speak against azadar, importance of Ahlulbayt, Karbala and azadari practices.
> ws
>
> --- In shia_strength@ yahoogroups. com, Muhammad Ali <smali_system@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Brother,
> >
> > My one of momin brother Bangash have pointed issues which are really important and need to be given importance. Unless we accept the truth we can not improve ourselves. One of our brother is saying that he has seen the vidoe of Aqaey Sistani in which he has allowed the zanjeer zani. He is mixing the zanjeer zani which happens in iraq with the bloody zanjeer zani which done in south asia. Please dont mix the facts.
> >
> >
> > Thanks and Regards,
> >
> > Ali.
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: M Hasan Hashmi hashmimhasan@ ...
> > To: shia_strength@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 6:38:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: [shia_strength] Fact behind Tashahhud in namaz
> >
> >
> > ASALAM-O-ALIKUM
> > >DEAR BROTHER
> > > YOU ASKED THAT AGAH SISTANI SAID ZANJEER ZANI IS HARAM DUE TO SOME REASONS
> > >BUT I SAW ON NET &HE SAID ZANJEER ZANI IS
> > > ALLOWED
> > >PLZ BROTHER FIRST CONFORM &THEN FORWARD
> > >ILTAMAS-E- DUA
> > >MUHAMMAD HASSAN HASHMI
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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