Dear Abid sb,
First rule of discussion is read the replies carefully and ask question accordingly. It seems you fall in the trap of so called reformers or wahabi propaganda.
Our one brother said it very clearly that no mujathid prohibited zanjeer matam but istead of asking him proof of his statement you directly refused and said most of our mujtahideen are disagree. The fact is just opposite most of the mujtahids allowed it.Just visit http://www.islamic-
Your all the Questions are based on some traditions, which are also not Haram and Misconceptions against shia azadari practice.
Shia Remember Ahlulbayt, karbala and made some practices to do so. If any practice is haram, then it is our duty to discuss otherwise it will be considered as attack on shiaesm.
There is no meaning of words like only 2% of people act on the fatwas. taqleed is wajib.
Namaz is also wajib but only some percent of muslims recite. Do you think it is islam;s fault?
There is no difference in Sunnat of Holy prophet(s.a.
I request you to first read these Question and answers. Then think about your doubts. If still you have doubt ask here but without neglecting replies of given in that website.
http://www.islamic-
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--- In shia_strength@
>
> Dear Brothers,
>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Thanks for yours response.
> 1. First of all don't think only about few people.we know that only two percent people act on the FATAWAS of Ulema(Mujtahaideen)
> According to my knowledge Zanjeer zani have no benefits to our religion.And most of our Mujtahaideen are disagree.
> 2.Yes brother i am 100 % agree with you that Quaran & Ahlaulbait (A.S) are the great and very clear mojoza but i am totally disagree with other mojozat as some of our momaimeens claim that i saw this and this.
> This is very very clear that Quaran is the most clear mojoza of Allah.
>
> 3. sorry that you don't understand my question.My question is not about Aqeeq & Feroza etc but my question is about black and other color chains and ring in ear.Some momaineen are even wear some kind of chains in their feet also.some wear different things in their wrist etc.They are saying that we are following sunate Hazarat SAJJAD (A.S).But actually its totally.....
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> 4.There should be limits as we observed that most of our momaineens are making ziarat theirself and there is no restriction.
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> 5. My question is true because most of our shias they give less importance to Quaran and Mosques.We should observe generally not only few people.
> You know about our concept(means shai muslims concept).we never afraid of God ,HAZARAT MOHAMMAD (S.A.W) and QUARAN but we afraid of HAZARAT ABBASS (A.S).YES we should afraid,we should respect Ahlullbait but we should never degrade ALLAH ,QUARAN AND HAZARAT MOHAMMAD (S.A.W).
>
> 6. My question is very clear, i have discussion with a lot of momaineen regarding KHOMOS.The concept of KHOMS and Zakawat is not clear.Some people says that if we paid amount from our wealth then we should distribute this equally.Why this one(means 50 percent for Syed).and even the rest 50 percent also for syed instead of non-syed.
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> Sorry for taking your time.
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> From: masoom110 masoom110@..
> To: shia_strength@
> Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 10:38:46 AM
> Subject: [shia_strength] Re: needs your help to clear my mind
>
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> 1.Whether we should continue Zanjeer zani according to
> ULEMA(MOJTAHIDEEN) FATWA and current medical science?
> Ans: It is our duty to follow rulings of Mujtahideens as the issue fatwa
> based on hadith e Masumeen(a.s) and holy Quran. You are allowed to do
> taqleed of the best mujtahid and follow him. They knows thousand times
> better than us.
> 2.Can anybody claim that i saw or observe some mojoza?Is mojaza is
> possible now?
> Ans: Simple reply is yes. Quran it self is a Moajaza. Recite the Holy
> Quran to cure disease and in problems and see its miracle.
> 3.Why some momeneen are wearing different type of things in their
> hands,earst etc.?
> Ans: Question is not clear.Everbody have their own choice to wear any
> thing which is allowed in Islam.Wearing ring of aqqeq and firoza is
> sunnat e rasool(s.a.w)
> 4. What is the criteria of Ziaraat?Every can claim and made a Ziarat
> everywhere?
> Ans: Ziyarat basically means, to visit the Shrines of the Holy Masumeen
> (as) or any other holy personality with proximity to ahlulbayt (as).
> The Holy Prophet (saw) & Imams (as) have highly emphasized the
> importance of Ziyarat, in order to enable the follower to come closer to
> the Masumeen, to learn from their character and thereby improve their
> lives.
> 5. Why we never concentrate on Quaran & Mosque? Means why we are giving
> less importance to prayers(NAMAZ) ,QUARAN,MOSQUE.
> Ans: This is not true.
> 6. Most of our brothers are not clear on 4th section of Faroe
> Deen(khoms)?
> Ans: Some of our muslims do not want to know or read on this topic of
> Khums because of their love for money and worldly pleasures. It is our
> duty to teach them.
>
> --- In shia_strength@
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Brother Abid
> > It is not my instruction. or order but only suggestion in good
> health:
> > By your inner feeling which you mentioned below, it looks like chain
> of your bicycle is becoming loose, make it tight before it fall out.
> > Please don't be victim of Modernization, what deen we got from our
> ancestors is precious, many of them scarified their lives for this
> Religion and Azadari
> > Â
> > A.1
> > No Mujtaheed had given any Fatwa against Zanjeer Zani (These rites
> must be done in such a way that in addition to serving that purpose, it
> draws the attention of others to these lofty goals. Also its ritual
> aspect should be preserved. So those actions which are not
> understandable for the enemies of Islam and non-Shia Muslims and causes
> misunderstanding and contempt for the religion must be avoided.by Board
> of Istifa, Office of Grand Ayatollah Sistani)
> > Â
> > Â A.2
> > Mojeza: To see or to happen Mojeza it requires Marefat of Ahlul Bait
> (A.S), we should be strong and correct follower of Ahlul Bait (A.S), in
> all aspects. and sure you will see (I have evidence of seeing Mojeza
> very recently which happened to my Cousin Sister in Damuscus, Syria at
> Zanabia)
> > Â
> > A.3
> > To wear a ring (Aqiq or stone) is Sunna of Prophet Mohammed
> (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam), you can get all the details on net, (may
> be you have knowledge of Imam Ali (Alaihis Salam) giving his ring during
> prayer to one Fakhir)
> > Â
> > A.4
> > Your question is not clear!
> > For sure, if you are not in position to visit the holy place you can
> recite the Zairaat from where you are. (dur se ba dil nazdik),
> > Â
> > A.5
> > Who say we are not concentrating on Namaaz, Quran and Mosque.
> > You should be with people (true followers of Ahlul Bait (a.s)) and you
> will see their worship, (much to write but I am on Job now)
> > Â
> > A.6
> > I agree we all should follow the 4th section of Furoee Deen (it is
> must) including myself, our scholars should give lectures more on these
> issues in depth and let us understand clear position of all acts
> > Â
> > Keep all catagories separate like : Foruee Din, Usole Din, Aqeeda,
> Mohabat, Religion, Tradition and etc....read more Aqwale Masoomeen, you
> will get clear answers for your question and confusions:
> > (already you are member of Shia Strength and you should know many
> things from this group as they are sending mails on each topics) may
> Allah (SWT) shower his blessing on this group founders & members
> > Â
> > Â
> > Your Brother
> > SMB
> > Â
> > Â
> > Â
> > Â
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________
> > From: Abid Bangash abid.bangash@
> > To: shia_strength@
> > Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 1:03:32 PM
> > Subject: [shia_strength] needs your help to clear my mind
> >
> > Â
> > ASallamo Aalaikum,
> > Â
> > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
> Â First of all i appologize all momaimneen because may be someone
> will feel bad when he read this.Actually my intention is not to hurt
> someone or i have no intention to critize my beloved religion.
> > May be you people already had a lot of dicussion about this.
> > Â
> > 1.Whether we should continue Zanjeer zani according to
> ULEMA(MOJTAHIDEEN) FATWA and current medical science?
> > 2.Can anybody claim that i saw or observe some mojoza?Is mojaza is
> possible now?
> > 3.Why some momeneen are wearing different type of things in their
> hands,earst etc.?
> > 4. What is the criteria of Ziaraat?Every can claim and made a Ziarat
> everywhere?
> > 5. Why we never concentrate on Quaran & Mosque?Means why we are giving
> less importance to prayers(NAMAZ) ,QUARAN,MOSQUE.
> > 6. Most of our brothers are not clear on 4th section of Faroe
> Deen(khoms)?
> > Â
> > Abid
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________
> > From: afroz alam <alam_afroz7@ yahoo.co. in>
> > To: ISLAM_TIMES@ yahoogroups. com; tamilmuslims@ yahoogroups. com;
> shia_strength@ yahoogroups. com; muslim_youth_ connection@ yahoogroups.
> com; progressive- muslim@yahoogrou ps.com; islam-kerala@ yahoogroups.
> com; muslimindia@ yahoogroups. com; indianmuslims@ yahoogroups. com;
> unitedindianmuslims @yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 11:23:27 AM
> > Subject: [shia_strength] Muslim boy faces khap ire for same-gotra
> marriage
> >
> > Â
> > Muslim boy faces khap ire for same-gotra marriage
> >
> > CHANDIGARH: Haryana's khap menace is crossing religious lines and
> spreading to the formally casteless Muslim community. An eight-time
> national wrestling champion, Ikhlash, 22, is facing the wrath of a khap
> of 360 villages of Meo Muslims for getting married within the same
> gotra.
> >
> > Little did Ikhlash, a resident of Mewat's Dwarka village, know what he
> would be up against when on May 9 he married Anjum, whose ancestors had
> migrated to Rajasthan almost a century ago.
> >
> > Now, instead of planning his honeymoon, Ikhlash, a constable in the
> Indian Reserve Battalion (IRB) at Bhondsi, finds himself and his family
> excommunicated for marrying the girl, who according to the khap, belongs
> to the same gotra.
> >
> > Ramzan Chaudhary, who describes himself as the coordinator of khaps
> and the head of Mewat Vikas Manch, justified Ikhlash's social boycott as
> an initiative to protect the honor of the villages and the Meo
> community. "We follow Islam. But, at the same time we strongly follow
> our tradition derived from Haryana. We don't allow same gotra marriage.
> The girl belongs to Barkiya gotra which has a strong presence in 22
> villages of Mewat here. Her ancestors moved to Alwar in Rajsthan but the
> gotra remains the same," he said. Ikhlash is making representations to
> various police officers, including Mewat SP and Gurgaon commissioner of
> police, seeking protection for himself and the family.
> >
> > "A few people from my village have joined hands. We follow Islam. Be
> it Islamic law or the Constitution of India, we have done no wrong. They
> had been putting pressure on me to annul the marriage and offered Rs 30
> lakh. We would fight till the end," Ikhlash said.
> >
> > "They did not raise their voice when Sania Mirza got married. I do not
> know what problem they have with me. We are not a runaway couple. We
> married at Nuh with the consent and in presence of family members of
> both sides," he said.
> >
> > Chaudhary said Ikhlash had almost yielded to khap pressure. "It was
> during the khap meeting held on May 8 that Ikhlash promised to call off
> the marriage after we assured him help in the future. But he married the
> very next day," he said.
> > http://timesofindia .indiatimes. com/India/ Now-Muslim- boy-faces-
> khap-ire- for-same- gotra-marriage/ articleshow/ 5960361.cms
> >
> > Afroz Alam
> > http://a4afroz. blogspot. com/
> >
>
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